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Old 2004-01-09, 11:31 PM   [Ignore Me] #16
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I think the solution to the surge problem - aside from fixing warping - is to increase stamina drain depending on the type of weapon you're using. Rifle type weapon = 3x stamina drain. Pistol type = 2x.

That way you can still use surge with a weapon if you want to, but you're not going to own 4 people with it.
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Old 2004-01-09, 11:56 PM   [Ignore Me] #17
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sigh hamma i must convert you to the dark side... muhahahahaha you shall see the light!
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Old 2004-01-09, 11:56 PM   [Ignore Me] #18
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When Surgile is gone, we can all have a good laugh at the flailing of those who milked it dry.
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Old 2004-01-10, 12:01 AM   [Ignore Me] #19
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i dont really care cause i dont use HA
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Old 2004-01-10, 12:10 AM   [Ignore Me] #20
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If you havn't used surge, do not fucking say it needs to be nerfed because you get owned by people that do use it. Either you use it, say its overpowered, or don't use it and shut the fuck up.
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Old 2004-01-10, 12:12 AM   [Ignore Me] #21
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HA is the best.....i havent found much use for surge other than getting my heavily armored arse to the other side of a cont......cant keep crosshairs on someone enough while using surge....
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Old 2004-01-10, 12:16 AM   [Ignore Me] #22
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Find your happy place, Rayder.
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Old 2004-01-10, 12:21 AM   [Ignore Me] #23
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they wont nerf surge. too many people rely on it, it would upset the balance of the game (make people quit in extreme cases)

i think they will work hard on fixing the warping.
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Old 2004-01-10, 12:44 AM   [Ignore Me] #24
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I don't care much, becasue i don't have HA, but bieng able to move fast is something that using MA weps almost requires
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Old 2004-01-10, 06:37 AM   [Ignore Me] #25
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I've used Surge and droped it. It is cheating.

Surge makes you invisable. Not the cloaker predator-style heat-shimmer invisable, but with client-side hit detections, you are totaly invulnerable to anything but accidental damage. You can kill people before their computer tells them that you are there.
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Old 2004-01-10, 08:18 AM   [Ignore Me] #26
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Folks, you may be missing the bigger picture here. Look at this comment closely "FYI: The Design Team has pretty much ruled this suggestion out, whether the fix for warping alleviates the balance problem or not."

If this comment is truely from the devs, then it is confirmation that they consider the Jackhammer problem a balance issue. They even go as far to call it a "balance problem".

Look to nerf bat being applied really soon.
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Old 2004-01-10, 09:59 AM   [Ignore Me] #27
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Dump the surgile......I agree, much heavier stamina drain, or unable to draw weapon while enabled.
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Old 2004-01-10, 10:47 AM   [Ignore Me] #28
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jackhammer wont ever be nerfed. whiners have cried since release it aint happening.
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Old 2004-01-10, 12:38 PM   [Ignore Me] #29
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Originally Posted by Fenrys
I've used Surge and droped it. It is cheating.

Surge makes you invisable. Not the cloaker predator-style heat-shimmer invisable, but with client-side hit detections, you are totaly invulnerable to anything but accidental damage. You can kill people before their computer tells them that you are there.
Well then you need to get a faster connection, cuz I have no problem hitting surglings.
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Old 2004-01-10, 07:32 PM   [Ignore Me] #30
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Originally Posted by Rayder
Well then you need to get a faster connection, cuz I have no problem hitting surglings.


Right, it's everybody's connection, and you're a better shot than everybody else. Now that we've got that solved the Devs can go cure AIDs or something in their free time.
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