Whispering your enemy, will it work in a Free to Play game? - Page 2

Ieyasu · 2012-05-29, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by NCLynx

Hate tells were the biggest compliment one could ever get. There are plenty of reasons why I hope they keep cross faction tells in game but that has to be one of the main reasons.

x2. if i had a good fight with someone I would just send them "hate tell" and almost always got a laugh back in return.

Fuse · 2012-05-29, 12:15 AM

Originally Posted by Ieyasu

x2. if i had a good fight with someone I would just send them "hate tell" and almost always got a laugh back in return.

Why? If I had a good fight with someone I usually sent them a "GF" (good fight) or "NS" (nice shot).

Like I said, I haven't played a game recently with a mature enough community to allow cross-faction communication. I've played a few that tried it and have had to remove it, though... Pretty sad since the average gamer these days is in his late 30s, but I guess these are the people who leave their kids unattended on the PC and let them spew the filth, never bothering to teach them why they shouldn't mimic assholes.

The negativity and bigotry have just become too wide-spread. Like I said, I don't know if shitty parents are to blame or just the increased acceptance of gaming as a hobby, but something terrible has happened to the gaming community.

Ieyasu · 2012-05-29, 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by Fuse

Why? If I had a good fight with someone I usually sent them a "GF" (good fight) or "NS" (nice shot).

I guess the reason why was because most people got the spirit that it was sent in.

Brusi · 2012-05-29, 02:07 AM

perhaps limit the amount of /t ing that a brand new character can do until 24hrs has past?

SKYeXile · 2012-05-29, 02:44 AM

Originally Posted by Brusi

perhaps limit the amount of /t ing that a brand new character can do until 24hrs has past?

i think the amount of tells a free play user can send would be limited anyway.

Dreamcast · 2012-05-29, 02:51 AM

Seriously?....lol

I see no problem here, I don't even how this could even be a concern.

First of all I love /t...It was fun getting insulted.

If you can't handle it, just /ignore or just create an option for no receiving /t from enemies and even allies unless they are your friends.

Problem solved, now lets not make stupid restrictions on the number a /t a person can do or not.

Redshift · 2012-05-29, 03:36 AM

Keep it in, stick in an optional profanity filter and an ignore function.

Hate tells were the funniest thing, especially when the other guy was chronically uninformed

PeteHMB · 2012-05-29, 04:12 AM

I hope they keep it in. +3 for hate tells being some of the most entertaining things ever in chat. Hell, half the time it was the only reason my chat window was open. The other half of the time it was only if I was [making an attempt at] leading or directing the zerg.

One of my favorite screenshots from when I OS'd a massive raid gathering behind the main front...IIRC I got 2-3 sunderers, 2 galaxies, an AMS, a bunch of foot troops trying to get a ride, and barely missed a prowler and another galaxy.

LightningDriver · 2012-05-29, 10:02 AM

My favourite moment was fairly early on in the game when people were still learning the ropes. I was running from point A to point B in an anti-infantry max when I happen to run across an enemy AMS.

I knew it would take forever to bring it down with my weapons loadout, so I mention to my platoon what is happening at my position, tell them to bring a tank, and continue to pick off the troops that spawn in at that location.

I got called everything in the book within a span of 5 minutes, but the common theme was, I am not "fighting fair or honourably", but said with very colourful language. I giggled, war is not, and never was fair, even in a simulated form.

Unfortunatly, when the game comes out, it will be full of thin-skinned man-children who dish it out but can't take it. The best respect to give your enemy, because we all need enemies for this game to thrive, is to simply move on. If you don't respect your enemy, or grief them in any form, even if you are my beloved TR, don't play this game.

Serpent · 2012-05-29, 10:09 AM

F2P generally allows for more people to come into a game, and not just immature people. People who are younger tend to be more obnoxious (obviously)... I'm just going to say it's asking for it if we give the "whisper" to everyone =/

Duddy · 2012-05-29, 10:10 AM

There isn't much doubt within me that cross faction talk shouldn't exist, whilst it doesn't necessarily add to the experience (or as Warborn pointed out, it can actually detract) it would seem wrong to have it missing.

That said, I think it needs to be an optional choice... and that it needs to be off by default. This allows people who want to use it to do so at their own peril, but those wanting to opt out can do so. To clarify, if you had it off you wouldn't be able to send or receive cross faction messages.

I mean heck, even then someone very dedicated would still make a new account to /t you from the same faction if they were that mad.

So I think it should remain, but allow for some mitigation of the less pleasant aspects of the feature.

Redshift · 2012-05-29, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by Duddy

I mean heck, even then someone very dedicated would still make a new account to /t you from the same faction if they were that mad.

Disable /t until you reach BR3 or something, Disable cross faction /t until you reach BR10 or something.

Won't stop people logging alts to abuse people but it will mean you can't just create a new char if someone ignores you.

As an additional thing, i'd like ignore to be account wide, all my chars all their chars, not that i tend to use it but if i did that's how i'd like it.

basti · 2012-05-29, 11:57 AM

i say no cross faction /t till you spend at least 10$ or something in the shop, and played at least 10 hours.

Thats just for two reasons: 1. Avoid a flood of random spam coming at you (gold sellers anyone? Who knows what they try to sell in PS2) and 2. keep those noobs save a little longer. One need to be prepared for his first hate tell.

LightningDriver · 2012-05-29, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by WildVS

Has to be in. Matt stated in his opinion the main reason for PS1 longevity was rivalries. Nothing fosters that like a some cross faction smack talk. I quite frankly can't imagine the game without it.

I agree, but smack talk and a lack of respect are two different animals.

PeteHMB · 2012-05-29, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by WildVS

Has to be in. Matt stated in his opinion the main reason for PS1 longevity was rivalries. Nothing fosters that like a some cross faction smack talk. I quite frankly can't imagine the game without it.

Rivalries definitely played a large factor. Notoriety and prestige for outfits and players alike. Let's think of some names off the top of my head here (and keeping in mind I haven't touched PS1 since 2004-ish):

Anakin
LazyT/Tyzal
SGswift
GODJOEY (I know, I know)
Malorn
BuzzCutPsycho

SturmGrenadiers
Serious Gamers
Ahriman Corps
The Enclave
1st Cavalry Midget Mobile
666th Devil Dogs (weren't even on my server and I knew who they were)

etc, etc. Tons more I'm either forgetting or don't want to butcher their names. Persistent world = persistent player reputation, for better or for worse.