Smedley: "Bigots, homophobes, racists, anti-semites and general jerks not welcome" - Page 3

HeatLegend · 2012-09-02, 02:02 PM

I think it's good they enforce it. But honestly, they can't be so strict about it. I for example say a lot of "homophobic" and "mean" racist things; but I'm never serious and I just do it to friends. It's bit of a toll that -not to point at anyone- tends to come a little more from america that everything is taken so seriously. Racism is such a big thing there due to all the various cultures. But from where for example I come from people say racist things all the time, very few are actually serious. Actual Racism and Homophobia is something that we in Scandinavia and a lot of Western/Central Europe for the most part have grown out of. If someone says something racist or homophobic people generally don't take em seriously around here.

But! Obviously it's hard to tell wether someone is joking or not in a chat especially if biggotry like this is a common thing around some people. So I think it's good that they enforce it, definitely- but I don't think they can be that strict just from seeing someone say something bad. At least give them warnings/infractions first, if they continue and don't learn that that kinda language isn't tolerated inside the game- then ban them for a few weeks or w/e.

EDIT:

Originally Posted by MaxDamage

http://i.imgur.com/EX5v4.jpg

Gotta love Stephen Fry

Bags · 2012-09-02, 02:11 PM

So what actually happened? They streamed Buzz's stream and he was racist, biggoted, homophobic etc etc on voice?

MaxDamage · 2012-09-02, 02:14 PM

I just read the links to buzzcuts words.

It's 4chan kid behaviour.

They just use the words in spite of the words.
There is no hatred there whatsoever, I'm familiar with these kinds of people.

Outright bans for first offences are extreme because it is absolutely nothing other than bad language.

I don't want to see it myself, and people like that have messed up and infected communities I've been a part of in the past; but people holding their hands up to their mouths and acting flabbergasted, either lived a very sheltered life or haven't met 4channers before.

Like Smed says, so long as it isn't in the game, cool.
Kids will be kids.

They delight in perversity and in many ways, it's really no different than the shock factor humour Monty Python utilised in the past.

Humour is often shocking and "offensive", and should be permitted to be so, but the line should be drawn at the outright purile when it is said to genuinely cause someone real pain.

I welcome Smeds forthright statement.

HellsPanda · 2012-09-02, 02:20 PM

Ofcourse its different, because Monty Python where funny aswell as offensive

Syphus · 2012-09-02, 02:27 PM

Why exactly is this stuff censored in the OP?

Shylan · 2012-09-02, 03:01 PM

I think a few friendly insults between friends is OK, but when it becomes excessive to the point of annoyance, or is directed at someone with deliberate attempt to offend, then it's not OK. From all the denied applications I read from BCP; whether he falls under the deliberately annoying or deliberately offensive category, I can't tell; but either way, he's behaving like a huge jerk, and that's not being 'cool' or 'edgy'- that's just being immature and stupid.

JHendy · 2012-09-02, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by DjEclipse

Buzz lives up to that gamer tag, it's pretty much his parental advisory notice.

Imho that is just Buzz's shtick, he is like the Howard Stern of PS2.

Please, stop trying to excuse him by making his shitty behavior out to be character.

The man has no character, he's a disrespectful little gobshite sat behind a keyboard.

elementHTTP · 2012-09-02, 03:44 PM

Well you can always say that Vanu are racist towards blue and red colored people.
Who gives them right to horribly assault those social groups !
BAN VANU color-phobes !

Crator · 2012-09-02, 03:53 PM

Is this kind of thing going to hinder SOE being able to have the in-game streaming tools they are planning?

Geist · 2012-09-02, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by Syphus

Why exactly is this stuff censored in the OP?

Wasn't really sure how the mods were going to react, so decided to play it safe and just quote the message without the specifics. Believe it or not this is probably rather damaging to the enclave.

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OnexBigxHebrew · 2012-09-02, 04:29 PM

Good. Unfortunately, a lot of people see my tag and think its anti-Semite when I'm actually, in truth, a ***. Haha gotta love this world.

Haters gonna hate!

321 · 2012-09-02, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by OnexBigxHebrew

Good. Unfortunately, a lot of people see my tag and think its anti-Semite when I'm actually, in truth, a ***.

Would you consider a gentile anti-Semitic if he used that same name?

USD · 2012-09-02, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by Geist

Wasn't really sure how the mods were going to react, so decided to play it safe and just quote the message without the specifics. Believe it or not this is probably rather damaging to the enclave.

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We've never had more applicants in such a short amount of time.

Electrofreak · 2012-09-02, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by USD

We've never had more applicants in such a short amount of time.

How many of them are jewish or homosexual on the applications I wonder?

And those who aren't trolling you probably are pretty screwed up people.

I really liked "GODJOEY's" application. Remember him?

http://enclaveoilrig.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=20428

Geist · 2012-09-02, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by USD

We've never had more applicants in such a short amount of time.

My mistake.

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