MAX vs. HA - Page 4

FortySe7en · 2012-08-13, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by Gryphon

Even if you have seen it in recent media, the devs already said during the E3 stream, where MAX's could drive and capture, these would not be things they could do in the final game. Doubt it is even remotely a consideration.

I believe they said something about having a pretty decent size CD on them as well.

Originally Posted by Comet

I'm surprised how hostile some people get on a fan site with fans who like to talk about what they hve seen/heard/want for the game. Fact or not, we like to talk about what could be and what maybe is.

If you don't like the discussion, please refrain from posting and please let those who want to discuss the game do so without the negative comments. You think the post is stupid or pointless? Alright, feel free now to post in here again

I think its more about the fact that people in beta can't say anything because of the NDA. So when people see something come up in a thread like this and they can't say anything about it to correct the mis-information, it drives them insane

Comet · 2012-08-13, 05:31 PM

Yeah, I understand your point for sure Forty. We'll all see the light soon enough

FortySe7en · 2012-08-13, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by Comet

Yeah, I understand your point for sure Forty. We'll all see the light soon enough

Yeah sorry if I came off a little "off" there. Wasn't directed at you or anything. They just need to drop this NDA so I can start streaming....

Haha

Comet · 2012-08-13, 05:37 PM

No hurt feelings, I understand

I want you to be able to stream too - haha.

Piper · 2012-08-13, 05:38 PM

Group hug!

RoninOni · 2012-08-13, 06:11 PM

As long as discussions are more about how we want, or expect, the final release to be like, rather than discussing what's in beta (which most of us don't know anyways except what can be deduced from Higby streams) I think we'll be fine.

What I expect that MAX's will have no cost (tho I'd support one), a short CD (5min? maybe reduceable?) and will only be able to ride in large troop transports which would also have a limited # of slots for MAX passengers (last 2-4 seats depending on type and maybe customization).

I did see a MAX as a sunderer gunner in a stream... but I'm 90% sure it's just that the restriction isn't implemented yet.

adddemon · 2012-08-13, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by Piper

Group hug!

dont tempt me, lol

Warborn · 2012-08-13, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by FortySe7en

[a stupid video]

Spend less time watching stupid YouTube videos, and more time watching the stream, and maybe you'll know what you're talking about next time. MAXs can pick any combination of weapons they want. Two AI, one AI and one AV, whatever. They are no less versatile than HA is, unless they choose to specialize and go with two of the same weapon, in which case they are no doubt far better than HA is at that particular function.

Blackwolf · 2012-08-13, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by Warborn

Spend less time watching stupid YouTube videos, and more time watching the stream, and maybe you'll know what you're talking about next time. MAXs can pick any combination of weapons they want. Two AI, one AI and one AV, whatever. They are no less versatile than HA is, unless they choose to specialize and go with two of the same weapon, in which case they are no doubt far better than HA is at that particular function.

MAX suits are limited in mobility, can't repair themselves or revive others or perform any form of support role, can't hack consoles, can't climb into vehicles as gunners or passengers, and they can't crouch behind cover.

HA just can't perform support roles.

That's the difference in versatility here. Not what you can kill with what but what you can actually DO.

All MAX suits are specialists in taking and dealing damage. HA just aren't specialists.

FortySe7en · 2012-08-13, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by Warborn

Spend less time watching stupid YouTube videos, and more time watching the stream, and maybe you'll know what you're talking about next time. MAXs can pick any combination of weapons they want. Two AI, one AI and one AV, whatever. They are no less versatile than HA is, unless they choose to specialize and go with two of the same weapon, in which case they are no doubt far better than HA is at that particular function.

Why would I watch the stream when I can play the game? You have no idea what you are talking about and so I have no choice but to leave you with yet another video:

Blackwolf · 2012-08-13, 07:57 PM

As a side note, and this is also from videos. MAX suits don't have shields, they just have a really big "health" bar. HA shields regenerate by themselves which reduces their need for support to medics only. MAX suits require an engineer for repairs and they don't have any means of keeping themselves alive by staying out of combat for a few seconds.

They have a lot of armor, but that is also their downfall as they are entirely dependent on supporting infantry. This follows tank warfare and tactics as well. Tanks without infantry support die quick.

Arcsilver · 2012-08-13, 11:01 PM

I think MAX should be like a vehicle. Have a cost and a cooldown.

KuCooKaChu · 2012-08-14, 12:08 AM

I'm pretty sure when they put in the HA specific weapons in the game you will think the HA is OP. Unless they are in the game already. I'm not in beta, but I feel pretty sure they are not in yet.

RoninOni · 2012-08-14, 01:33 AM

Originally Posted by KuCooKaChu

I'm pretty sure when they put in the HA specific weapons in the game you will think the HA is OP. Unless they are in the game already. I'm not in beta, but I feel pretty sure they are not in yet.

Those weapons will likely be dual-wieldable by the MAXes you know..........

Phaaze · 2012-08-14, 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by KuCooKaChu

I'm pretty sure when they put in the HA specific weapons in the game you will think the HA is OP. Unless they are in the game already. I'm not in beta, but I feel pretty sure they are not in yet.

Now that you mention it, I've yet to see any HA combat.