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View Poll Results: What do you identify yourself as? | |||
Atheist/Skeptic/Agnostic | 151 | 70.89% | |
Catholic | 21 | 9.86% | |
Protestant | 24 | 11.27% | |
Jewish | 5 | 2.35% | |
Muslim | 2 | 0.94% | |
Philisophy (Such as Buddhism) | 10 | 4.69% | |
Voters: 213. You may not vote on this poll |
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2012-05-23, 04:08 AM | [Ignore Me] #634 | |||
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2012-05-26, 07:05 PM | [Ignore Me] #637 | |||
What goes into a man's mouth does not make him 'unclean,' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him 'unclean.'" Christian Bible doesn't care about what people eat. On the other hand, Jesus said that he wasn't there to supplant the teachings of the Old Testament, and the OT definitely calls shellfish an abomination, amongst other things. So if you're a Christian you have Matthew there saying that what you consume doesn't make a difference, the OT stuff saying it does, and you stuck in the middle wondering why, if God was so smart and cared so much about what people did with themselves, he couldn't make a book that got its fucking facts straight. The prohibition against weed is not based on religious teachings. Like abortion, which the Bible also thinks is fine and dandy, it's simply about one part of society trying to control another part. In the case of weed, it's people who imagine good little Christian boys and girls who love Jesus being somehow magically made less good by the corrupting influence of the devil-weed. These people only care about trying to make their/other people's children become just like they/their parents are -- ignorant, close-minded, boring motherfuckers whose only goal in life is to make new Christians, get paychecks, and praise God. |
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2012-05-30, 11:10 PM | [Ignore Me] #639 | ||
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I don't think anybody or anyone is qualified to define something they had no hand in creating. No matter how well educated an individual is on our universe, their best conclusions(even by means of extensive experimentation) could still be miles off. Yea we understand a lot about our universe, but nobody can know something better than the one who made it. With that being said, I have chosen not to entrust my life to the ideology of fallible men. While there is a wealth of knowledge to be gained from well educated people, they simply cannot answer the critical questions.
I was raised in church and drifted away from my faith for some years. I recall some of the things I got into and particularly instances where I was calling on demonic entities. I sensed the battle going on inside of me, but I ignored the still small voice. Today I am fully devoted to Christ and I will never turn back. I've lived for myself, my goals and dreams, and even religion for years and nothing else has come close to a relationship with Him. I will rep Christ until I die. With that being said, it is never my place to judge a non-believer. If God himself has chosen not to interfere with the decisions of men then who am I to do the opposite. I hope for a day when people realize that accurate devotion to God is driven by a desire for people to encounter, by their own decision, a creator, and not by taking His Word and shoving it in their faces. |
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2012-05-31, 12:26 AM | [Ignore Me] #640 | ||
And I guess you just know somehow that the Christian religion is the correct one, and it's just a coincidence that that's the religion you were raised with? What do you think of the fact that people who are born into Muslim countries to a very large extent become Muslim and not Christian? Do you think they feel any less certain about their faith than you do?
I think it's fine if people want to believe in a God or Gods. Everyone has their own way of digesting the reality of being a very finite being in a very expansive and uncaring universe. I just think there's something really quite silly about feeling strongly about any particular religion, as there are all sorts of them, no one is really dominant in any real sense, they all seem to inspire their adherents equally well, and they all say fundamentally incompatible things about the world. Falling into the religion of the culture that raised you just seems so obvious to me. Also, pro tip, but Jesus didn't write the Bible, men did many years after the fact. |
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2012-05-31, 02:18 AM | [Ignore Me] #641 | |||||
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The assumption that there was something at first, and it was a sentient being that fully understood everything after first creating it is an interesting hypothesis. Though to follow the Christian creation myth with the "little" we know it's completely unrealistic and you'd really need to have blind faith to follow its contradictions. (If you are thinking there are no contradictions then you have very little understanding of the "little" humanity has learned). "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". Research if you're curious. The best way to be stuck in a religion is to not ask questions. (Sadly from some religions, like Jehovah Witnesses, followers are trained for years to not ask certain questions). However, I think you might need to talk with a professional: Those kind of thought patterns of "demonic entities" in one's thoughts is a classic defense mechanisms religious people use so they don't have to face their real thoughts or to try to label them as spiritual and outside the body. Personally to me it sounds unhealthy and something where you're looking for a higher power to solve a problem that you can't deal with. I don't know if your church indoctrinated you the same way as some do through guilt. That is they ingrain into believers that they are fallible and make mistakes usually labeling them "sins" and that they can't redeem themselves except through a deity (in the Christian religion the prophet/deity Jesus depending on the version). That is they are dependent on religion for salvation. This is really something someone has to come up with on their own if they can solve their own problems or if they are stigma'ed with "sin" (or even original sin) that exists in a spiritual sense that can never be removed. That guilt system that already exists when people make mistakes is essentially preyed on. It's something one has to figure out on their own. (If it makes it easier most Atheists view it as a psychological scam, but to understand that you might need to think about it for a while).
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2012-05-31, 07:30 AM | [Ignore Me] #642 | |||
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2012-05-31, 04:23 PM | [Ignore Me] #644 | ||
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“A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic – on a level with the man who says he is a poached egg – or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God; or else a madman or something worse. You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.”
- C.S. Lewis that is all, I have nothing more to say. |
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2012-05-31, 04:34 PM | [Ignore Me] #645 | ||
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Poe's law is strong. I couldn't tell you were joking before I guess. Sorry for that.
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