Israel

[MightyMan]

So, the only reason I necro-bump this is to bring this to closure and this is the last I'l post anything on this thread.
Last time I was here was like 2 or 3 months ago. As always I have spent an hour of my day maintaining this thread and shouting at those who in my opinion had a wrong idea of the conflict. After an especially stupid argument with my purple gorilla friend, I just gave up and rage quit not only from the thread but the forums at general, a thing that I regret and ashamed of.

You see, I came to a conclusion that no matter how much I or anyone else argues with each other on this or a similar subject with two clear view points (save for a small amount of smart asses ) always go the same, someone says something bad about one side, and the other replies by countering the claims and says something bad about the second side.
Now the fact is that no matter what anyone says, they will never change the other side's opinion because both sides will always be sure that the other's side views are biased and false, which results with nothing but a pointless waist of time.

This is why I ask you to never start threads like this, because they serve as nothing more then an ugly mole on the political forum's face.

I am sorry for ever opening this thread, and god forbid I ever make such a mistake again.

Oh, and I'ma back :|

[Warborn]

What previous major world problems would you say **** are responsible for?

[Necronile]

Originally Posted by Warborn

What previous major world problems would you say **** are responsible for?

Dont mind him he is probably trolling

[Figment]

See the thread could easily be fine. But I'm sorry to say, you and a few others don't handle critique well: national pride gets in the way of a proper discussion. If you ask for opinions, don't cry whenever they don't corresspond with your own views.

There were a few people in this thread that gave a subjective good + bad view, where all bad was either waved away and quickly excused with a "but they did", or denied or interpreted as hate, but at the very least it was insinuated to be prejudice.

Did you ever acknowledge your own prejudices though? I honestly can't recall that, what I do recall is you feeling attacked and acting indignified when critized and in some cases basically calling us liars even if we see or provide footage. Even if we say both sides are at fault, etc. Thing is, you asked us what we think of Israël, not of the syrian or palestinian authorities.

The irony is, you described yourself to have "neutral opinions", I think it was clear you do not. You're not Suiss or Swedish, you are an involved, Israëli party, you are proud of your countries achievements and a clear patriot in a way. What you are not, is neutral. You would be neutral if you stood on the sideline like say a Canadian, rather than in the field. (Republican) Americans (in particular) tend to have picked the israeli side. Europeans are inclined to in principle support Israël, but will also be more critical. Many left wing fend to side with the underdog. So expect critique and accept it when you ask for it