AGN: Community Clash Recording TXR and MERC vs NNG and TGWW - Page 10

Rudelord · 2013-09-28, 12:56 PM

this is alot of tl;dr for what could have been easily solved in one acronym and two words

QRY WINS AGAIN.

Naterian · 2013-09-28, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by Rudelord

this is alot of tl;dr for what could have been easily solved in one acronym and two words

QRY WINS AGAIN.

Word to the motherfucking streets, yo!

Selentic · 2013-09-28, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Naterian

Word to the motherfucking streets, yo!

we gangsta

Karzi · 2013-09-28, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by Selentic

we gangsta

#Swag

Sledgecrushr · 2013-09-28, 01:12 PM

The best of mattherson beat 2 outfits from connery. An alliance of outfits fielded there best players and came to this competition disguised like they were all one outfit. The very best pilots from all factions and several outfits on mattherson got together and beat 2 individual outfits from connery. Really you guys shouldnt be so proud. Pride would have come with bringing your everyday outfit to this community clash.

Phrygen · 2013-09-28, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by Sledgecrushr

The best of mattherson beat 2 outfits from connery. An alliance of outfits fielded there best players and came to this competition disguised like they were all one outfit. The very best pilots from all factions and several outfits on mattherson got together and beat 2 individual outfits from connery. Really you guys shouldnt be so proud. Pride would have come with bringing your everyday outfit to this community clash.

Proud? Three TGWW members defending their honor and explaining their concept of what the rules allowed. A few of the TXR/MERC guys have also provided well written posts as to why they feel the spirit of the rules were not followed.

The rest of the Mattherson pilots are are trash talk trolling because they know it upsets several other players.

I was told this forum was superior to the SOE forums....

Naterian · 2013-09-28, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by Sledgecrushr

The best of mattherson beat 2 outfits from connery. An alliance of outfits fielded there best players and came to this competition disguised like they were all one outfit. The very best pilots from all factions and several outfits on mattherson got together and beat 2 individual outfits from connery. Really you guys shouldnt be so proud. Pride would have come with bringing your everyday outfit to this community clash.

LOL

No one was "proud" of that rape. Maybe you don't realize how bored out of our minds we were, literally the second round we were just in typical noob farming mode like I'm trying to hit BR100 on some double XP weekend.

Actually it was more boring than that because there were no aircraft for me to dogfight and I couldn't leave to sk33t across the map looking for other targets. I just had to sit there and hose you guys down 2 at a time as you guys came out the spawn room. SO EXCITING.

Like I said, grab all of connery's finest and see how they stack up to us. Doubt I'll be impressed though!

#MLGYOLO420BLAZEIT

Shehadi · 2013-09-28, 01:46 PM

I was unfortunate enough to be a member of the ground force being cut to ribbons by air for almost two hours. However, it kills me to see this event that started with such positivity, devolve into such bile.

We got beat, so the way I see it, is there is nothing to do but tip our hat and try to find a way to make sure it doesnt happen next time. I want to be able to say, that we could shake hands and tell each other "It was a pleasure, let's do this again some time."

As a member of the MERCS I would like to congratulate TGWW and NNG on a sound and firm victory, and I really hope that we do meet again in a scrim and leave this nasty business behind us

Sledgecrushr · 2013-09-28, 01:46 PM

I do have to say I am looking forward to seeing the mattherson elite go against the very best players on connery. This might be a little better match up than just picking on a couple of outfits that showed up with there regulars in good faith.

TorinPS · 2013-09-28, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Sledgecrushr

I do have to say I am looking forward to seeing the mattherson elite go against the very best players on connery. This might be a little better match up than just picking on a couple of outfits that showed up with there regulars in good faith.

Dude just stop posting. We brought our regulars. We didn't cherry pick a bunch of people from other outfits. These are our guys. There are more. Yeah, we honestly hope you bring your best.

Phrygen · 2013-09-28, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by TorinPS

Dude just stop posting. We brought our regulars. We didn't cherry pick a bunch of people from other outfits. These are our guys. There are more. Yeah, we honestly hope you bring your best.

To be fair, Naterian and harvester basically asked for this in the last two pages of the thread, and the mattherson pilots including yourself have acknowledged that that all the best pilots on mattherson have grouped up together, despite being in multiple outfits on the different factions.

I can agree with you when you say "these are our guys", but Ironfist could say the exact same thing if he decided to log on and do a scrim with the same players. I would respect that as well.

As such, its not fair to sledgecrusher to call him out for wanting to see the elite pilots of mattherson play against the elite pilots of connery. That is the situation that has been created. Frankly i dont want to see the mattherson elite pilots scrim anyone else but NUC or FTC + friends. its not fair and boring to watch.

TorinPS · 2013-09-28, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by Phrygen

To be fair, Naterian and harvester basically asked for this in the last two pages of the thread, and the mattherson pilots including yourself have acknowledged that that all the best pilots on mattherson have grouped up together, despite being in multiple outfits on the different factions.

To a lot of the Mattherson air community, concepts like faction and outfit are moot. We play all over the place, regardless of tag. We share many Teamspeak servers freely, bouncing from one to the other as situation warrants. We'll play with or without outfit tags, it doesn't matter. We're a group. For RCCC, what was already an established relationship, was made formal by the addition of a few extra outfit tags that had previously been in place. We aimed to meet the technical and spirit of the rule, and did that.

If the complaint from these guys is that a lot of great pilots on Mattherson are playing together, and that is unfair, then there isn't much I can add. "Sorry." It isn't going to change.

Originally Posted by Phrygen

As such, its not fair to sledgecrusher to call him out for wanting to see the elite pilots of mattherson play against the elite pilots of connery. That is the situation that has been created. Frankly i dont want to see the mattherson elite pilots scrim anyone else but NUC or FTC + friends. its not fair and boring to watch.

No, that's cool. I mean, I welcome it. A lot of our ESF pilots got fairly bored in the second round because we ran them out of resources and they had little left to do. sledgecrusher keeps alleging that we broke the rule, simply by gathering a bunch of pilots together. That we were not truly an outfit. I contest that statement. I'll acknowledge that we have a lot of the best pilots on the server, that is intentional. Recruiting efforts have been made for months to accomplish that. This was the first formal coming-together of everyone for a competitive event. And it won't be the last.

ReachCast · 2013-09-28, 03:30 PM

Due to the confusion with the previous rule we are changing its wording from

“All members must be a full time member of the outfit they are representing for the event.”

To

“All participating members of the match are required to be a member of the outfit they are representing for a minimum of 7 days prior to the start of the event.”

I apologize for any confusion the previous rule created and I can understand the interpretation made by both sides of this argument. We still understand that this is honor bound but hopefully it provides a clearer intent of the rule. Thank you everybody for the understanding that we are doing the best we can to improve the format, rule set and overall quality of the match each week. In the end we are doing this to provide an event for the community to enjoy and participate in.

Coltorl · 2013-09-28, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by ReachCast

Due to the confusion with the previous rule we are changing its wording from

“All members must be a full time member of the outfit they are representing for the event.”

To

“All participating members of the match are required to be a member of the outfit they are representing for a minimum of 7 days prior to the start of the event.”

I apologize for any confusion the previous rule created and I can understand the interpretation made by both sides of this argument. We still understand that this is honor bound but hopefully it provides a clearer intent of the rule. Thank you everybody for the understanding that we are doing the best we can to improve the format, rule set and overall quality of the match each week. In the end we are doing this to provide an event for the community to enjoy and participate in.

Good call, close this thread.

Rolfski · 2013-09-29, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by ReachCast

“All participating members of the match are required to be a member of the outfit they are representing for a minimum of 7 days prior to the start of the event.”

Good call, although I would probably change that to 30 days prior to the event start, just to stay on the safe side of any possible all-star team accusations.