NPC's in planetside? - Page 10

Graywolves · 2012-02-20, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by Espion

wow

Have you played an FPS before? Random dynamic events in an online team based shooter is one of the worst ideas imaginable. Games like Quake, Tribes, CS, etc are great team shooters because even though the gameplay was still spontaneous and unpredictable, everything that happened was the result of an action by a player in the match. As soon as you cross that line and start adding unknown and uncontrollable elements to the gameplay, it's a very steep and slippery slope away from quality team based play.

Planetside isn't anything at all like any of those games.

It's not an unknown and uncontrollable element. It's something that happens in certain areas if you make too much a presence in the area.

This isn't an arena or match based shooter. And although I stated this as simply a cool idea. Well it actually gives players a better reason to pay attention to their environment and adapt. If you are attempting to sneak up on the enemy by land through a jungle and don't want suspicion in the area, you might not want to bring too big a party at once or roll in tanks.

Have you played an FPS before?

Please refrain from attacking a posters credibility, especially when you have zero knowledge of their background. This is how back and forth personal posts happen and it derails the thread's discussion.

Espion · 2012-02-20, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by Graywolves

Planetside isn't anything at all like any of those games.

It's a shooter first, I think higby repeats that in every interview. The basic principles apply.

Please refrain from attacking a posters credibility

No.

IronMole · 2012-02-20, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by Sirisian

It's a start. Planetside 1 had weather back in 2003. The day/night cycle is definitely a modern addition.

Yeah, shame the weather in PS1 was poorly done and such a bad hit on performance. Nothing beat fighting on Hossin in a storm.

As for the NPC's, I just don't see it fitting in an FPS game such as PS as it wouldn't benefit the immersion at all, especially if it's in the middle of nowhere.

The way Highby talks about getting into the fights quicker, leads me to believe it would be pointless and the immersion should be focused on the fights itself.

VioletZero · 2012-02-20, 04:14 PM

I do think there should be an NPC faction.

In particular: Nanite Systems. There's something really really wrong with them selling weapons to ALL the factions just to make money. And then watching them kill each other. Maybe they could explore the idea of Nanite systems being evil in a PvE continent.

IronMole · 2012-02-20, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by VioletZero

I do think there should be an NPC faction.

In particular: Nanite Systems. There's something really really wrong with them selling weapons to ALL the factions just to make money. And then watching them kill each other. Maybe they could explore the idea of Nanite systems being evil in a PvE continent.

Oh dear...

Shogun · 2012-02-20, 04:16 PM

a little life on auraxis wouldn´t hurt, but it should not be overdone.

maybe just a little wildlife that doesn´t have any impact.
and those critters only spawn in areas with low playerdensity to prevent the critters from killing framerates. this way an empty map would feel more alive. in a crowded space no npcs are needed and they would deconstruct or just don´t respawn and die to shots and as roadkill.

and i would love to see a critter that reacts different to soldiers of each factions ;-)
like the transformer owl...
vs approaching is like facing the small owl,
nc approaching is like facing the big owl
tr is ignored ;-)

VioletZero · 2012-02-20, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by IronMole

Oh dear...

Something wrong with that? Did I screw up the lore again?

If so, I apologize.

XLynxX · 2012-02-20, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by VioletZero

I do think there should be an NPC faction.

In particular: Nanite Systems. There's something really really wrong with them selling weapons to ALL the factions just to make money. And then watching them kill each other. Maybe they could explore the idea of Nanite systems being evil in a PvE continent.

I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let the idea of an NPC empire go now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.

Hmr85 · 2012-02-20, 04:20 PM

They are already getting rid of guns being able to be holstered and seen on peoples back because it will take a hit on the number of players that can be on a continent fighting. So why are you wanting NPC's in a game that is only going to dwindle the number even more. No Please!! I'll take my big 1500+ player fights over some stupid NPC animals or w/e.

Graywolves · 2012-02-20, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by XLynxX

I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let the idea of an NPC empire go now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.

Omg Liam Neeson is playing PS2!!!!!!!

I think just having a small amount of wildlife that runs away before anyone even gets close would be cool for immersion. Bored? Drive an ATV around chasing mini velociraptors across indar.

Tatwi · 2012-02-20, 04:23 PM

You're not refuting, you're rebuffing (A sudden resistance or refusal) or at the very least, you're replying (To give a written or spoken response, especially to a question, request, accusation or criticism) based upon your opinion and I hate to break it to you, but your opinion is neither fact nor is it proof of anything. As such, you've refuted nothing at all and both sides of the discussion have merit and are not invalidated by your assertions.

In other words: Your opinion is not fact, but you're entitled to it just as much as anyone else is entitle to theirs. So, stop trying to invalidate everyone else by shooting your mouth off saying everyone else is wrong, because you say it's so.

Espion · 2012-02-20, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by VioletZero

Something wrong with that? Did I screw up the lore again?

If so, I apologize.

How much do you think people will care about the lore when they are getting rolled by a squad of players that are actually interested in the gameplay (which seems to be rare so far). Just take a guess.

IronMole · 2012-02-20, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by Graywolves

Omg Liam Neeson is playing PS2!!!!!!!

I think just having a small amount of wildlife that runs away before anyone even gets close would be cool for immersion. Bored? Drive an ATV around chasing mini velociraptors across indar.

NO! I WANT DRAGONS! I WANT TO TAME THEM SO I CAN USE THEM ON A DEFENCE OR EVEN A RAID. I WANT TO HAVE EXACTLY 3 AND BE ABLE TO RIDE ON ONE AND FIGHT REAVERS AND CYCLONS. I ALSO WANT IT TO BE ABLE TO DISABLE TANKS BY MY DRAGON TAKING A DUMP ON IT.

THEN I WANT TO BE ABLE TO STORE THEM IN A STABLE BECAUSE "NO PETS ARE ALLOWED" IN A BASE.

Fenrys · 2012-02-20, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by VioletZero

I do think there should be an NPC faction.

In particular: Nanite Systems. There's something really really wrong with them selling weapons to ALL the factions just to make money. And then watching them kill each other. Maybe they could explore the idea of Nanite systems being evil in a PvE continent.

The existence of PvE combat would make PvP fights smaller and less fun. It would be like having a competing game within the game.

It would also require dev time that would be better spent improving the PvP game, and could mess with balancing the PvP game.

I'm ambivalent to the idea of wildlife, but strongly opposed to PvE content.

Graywolves · 2012-02-20, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by IronMole

NO! I WANT DRAGONS! I WANT TO TAME THEM SO I CAN USE THEM ON A DEFENCE OR EVEN A RAID. I WANT TO HAVE EXACTLY 3 AND BE ABLE TO RIDE ON ONE AND FIGHT REAVERS AND CYCLONS. I ALSO WANT IT TO BE ABLE TO DISABLE TANKS BY MY DRAGON TAKING A DUMP ON IT.

THEN I WANT TO BE ABLE TO STORE THEM IN A STABLE BECAUSE "NO PETS ARE ALLOWED" IN A BASE.

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