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Old 2003-02-04, 05:45 PM   [Ignore Me] #16
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It won't be that bad at all. The newbie can get a level 5 BR before actually going out to battle. Difference between 5 BR and 20 ? Nearly none, certs only allow you to do more stuff without changing the certs you have around, it doesn't allow you to have more equipment at once. You can't use your MAX cert, lancer cert and Reaver cert all at once, you have to pick one, so your level won't affect much other except implants.
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Old 2003-02-04, 06:45 PM   [Ignore Me] #17
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amen brutha
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Old 2003-02-04, 06:55 PM   [Ignore Me] #18
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plus even if n00bs can only get a few weapons and use only 2 armor classes, their will still be soldiers from both sides in a lighter armor, so just go find some lights and attack em. I mean if your a light you dont run up to a MAX and pick a fight lol.
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Old 2003-02-04, 06:58 PM   [Ignore Me] #19
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Old 2003-02-04, 07:14 PM   [Ignore Me] #20
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i think noobs will have a similar problems as they do in CS, as long as they have a rifles cert by the time they get out of the training, they have the oppertunity to kill someone before they kill you. Also, if u join up and stay in groups, you'll get enough certs soon enough anyway. I believe that a noob, if he has reasonable combat expierence with any other game similar to PS MIGHT have a slight advantage cus the veterans will be in brighter armor. but hell, i dunno,
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Old 2003-02-04, 07:22 PM   [Ignore Me] #21
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While a veteran should be able to beat a n00b one on one, how many one on one battles are there gonna be? Also, unless im mistaken, it doesnt take any certs to man wall turrets and gun positions on vechs. Also, with the new reasource system, it should be fairly easy to get the BEP you need to go toe to toe with others.
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Old 2003-02-04, 07:48 PM   [Ignore Me] #22
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I don't see how a n00b will be at any disadvantage from a vet except in experience. Having a higher level doesn't give you any advantages, it just allows you to do more. If a n00b has medium armor and a gun and they attack a vet wearing medium armor and a gun, there's no reason for the n00b not to win except that the vet is used to the game. The vet doesn't get any aiming, damage, or armor bonuses. It should be a fairly level playing field.

The only advantage a vet will have is that he can kill you, sneak into and hack your base, and then steal a vehicle to escape in, while a n00b might not have enough certs to do everything they want.
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Old 2003-02-04, 07:59 PM   [Ignore Me] #23
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The difference between the newb and the vet will be their battlefield awareness.

What weapon should I use right now?

Which way should I look?

How should I move?

Where are my friends?

etc.
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Old 2003-02-04, 08:02 PM   [Ignore Me] #24
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vets only have brighter armor with CEP. 20 BR looks the same in Agile or reinforced as 5 BR
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Old 2003-02-04, 08:12 PM   [Ignore Me] #25
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Nope, CEPs give you polygonal additions like shoulderpads or something, but BEPs give you brighter colors.
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Old 2003-02-04, 08:38 PM   [Ignore Me] #26
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have you ever happened to actually look at some beta screenshots? if you will notice, they all have the darkest colors their empire offers. They were all at BR 20. Now, if you look at what you said in context, he said the CEP is the only thing that changes your uniform. BEP changes what you can have, whilst CEP give special uniform additions SUCH AS epaulettes, brighter colors, etc.
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Old 2003-02-04, 08:44 PM   [Ignore Me] #27
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Blah blah blah, yes we know, the only disadvantage will be their armor/skillz b/c standard armor is a waste of file space. Not that I have any shortage with my 80 gig hard drive
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Old 2003-02-04, 08:47 PM   [Ignore Me] #28
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Originally posted by Moloch
have you ever happened to actually look at some beta screenshots? if you will notice, they all have the darkest colors their empire offers. They were all at BR 20. Now, if you look at what you said in context, he said the CEP is the only thing that changes your uniform. BEP changes what you can have, whilst CEP give special uniform additions SUCH AS epaulettes, brighter colors, etc.
moloch, you're just wrong.

CEP gives you additional epaulette graphics to your armor

BEP changes your armor from primary color to secondary color.
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Old 2003-02-04, 09:12 PM   [Ignore Me] #29
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afex....perhaps you could add that to the certification section of the Game Info section of the PSU site since it IS OFFICIAL INFORMATION
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Old 2003-02-04, 09:27 PM   [Ignore Me] #30
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1. it wouldn't go in certs, it would go in ranks

2. i dont do content. why do you think we have a new editor position?
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