Claymore sucks compare to other factions anti infantry mines - Page 4

Lonehunter · 2013-04-24, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Hamma

those massive green lasers that are easily spotted

As NC I've never spotted a VS mine unless it was too late. But the lazers are just ridiculous lol

WSNeo · 2013-04-24, 02:28 PM

I vote the TR stop their bitching and deal with the fact that not everything in this game is meant to be assymetrical. (Lasher, NC/TR OP rocket pods, the goddamn Phoenix).

Dragonskin · 2013-04-24, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by WSNeo

I vote the TR stop their bitching and deal with the fact that not everything in this game is meant to be assymetrical. (Lasher, NC/TR OP rocket pods, the goddamn Phoenix).

Games that are assymertical just promote this kind of behavior. Warhammer was like this.. DAoC... any game that has factions with unique abilities/things. People can't handle things that are not equal and even if they were then they would complain about game performance or bandwidth.. whatever that could have given the edge to the enemy.

Mustakrakish · 2013-04-24, 02:51 PM

I can't say there's been a single instance where I noticed the green lasers on a Claymore. Usually I only notice them because whoever dropped them placed them in a dumb place, which is about 40% of the time. The other 60%, they're actually well-placed and I don't even know the mine is there until it's detonated.

That being said, making the detection area a bit longer and giving it a wider arc than 45 degrees seems reasonable.

ringring · 2013-04-24, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by Mustakrakish

I can't say there's been a single instance where I noticed the green lasers on a Claymore. Usually I only notice them because whoever dropped them placed them in a dumb place, which is about 40% of the time. The other 60%, they're actually well-placed and I don't even know the mine is there until it's detonated.

That being said, making the detection area a bit longer and giving it a wider arc than 45 degrees seems reasonable.

It would make no difference to where I place my claymores.

Do you recall the famous quote from Willie Sutton the bank robber? He was asked why he robbed banks and he replied 'because that's where the money is'.

I place claymores in doorways for a similar reason, that's where the people go.

Of course smarter ones enter via windows if possible.

Falcon_br · 2013-04-24, 08:40 PM

Ok, let´s make a deal, place two green lasers coming out of the VS and NC mines and we are even.

DarkBalths · 2013-04-25, 08:46 AM

I think they should either:
a) replace Claymores completely with a mine just like the other factions.
OR
b) give us double the amount of Claymores. (2 at first rank, 4 at second rank)

Claymores are severely underpowered when compared to proxies or betties. As for the guy complaining about the repeater, that's a totally different issue.

Baneblade · 2013-04-25, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by Sunrock

BTW most difficult ESF to hit?! The mossy? Try to hit a scythe when it shows horizontal to you.

My Vanguard eats Scythes...completely different story against Skeeters.

ThePackage · 2013-04-25, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by Canaris

There's only 2 options for fixing this that would be acceptable.

Either the TR claymores become like the Betties & Prox Mines or those two become like the claymore.

They should just remove the faction specific mines, and make them common pool NS mines just like the tank mines.

Whiteagle · 2013-04-25, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by Baneblade

My Vanguard eats Scythes...completely different story against Skeeters.

Eh, that's more because the Scythes is SOO easy to fly, most Vanu Pilots suck hard...

I used a Scythe in this comic for a reason after all:

Dragonskin · 2013-04-26, 01:19 PM

http://www.twitch.tv/zethiann/b/395942419

Ok, well found proof that people that say they can see the beams are not crazy. Watching streams today at work and came across this... So at the 18:50 mark he walks up to A point in a tower and clearly visible as day.. 2 green beams.... He plays NC and on ultra settings.. this was recorded this morning.

So... seeing that. Yea, that needs to be changed so allies can only see it or just the person that laid the claymore.. that is pretty lame.

Falcon_br · 2013-04-26, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by Dragonskin

http://www.twitch.tv/zethiann/b/395942419

Ok, well found proof that people that say they can see the beams are not crazy. Watching streams today at work and came across this... So at the 18:50 mark he walks up to A point in a tower and clearly visible as day.. 2 green beams.... He plays NC and on ultra settings.. this was recorded this morning.

So... seeing that. Yea, that needs to be changed so allies can only see it or just the person that laid the claymore.. that is pretty lame.

Dude, everyone know that the enemies can see the beams, only those blind ones claim they cannot see it.
Just ignore people who claims the beams are friendly only, they just can´t accept that claymore really sucks bad.