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2012-05-23, 07:55 AM | [Ignore Me] #1 | |||
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2012-05-23, 08:09 AM | [Ignore Me] #2 | ||
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If I say this sounds like:
"It's 'n aezheist, communnist, black, Un'on babykillin' conspihrazzee againsht teh South to make us all gay, y'hear? Y'all better be voatin' againsht gay miirriiuge!!11!!twelve" Would I be far off? Or did I get the accent wrong? :x |
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2012-05-23, 08:12 AM | [Ignore Me] #3 | ||
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What I think we're seeing here, with the sudden in-your-face nature of hardline religiosity in this country, especially when it comes to the homophobic stuff, is the terminal insecurity of the religious establishment. The ranks of the nonreligious (not to be confused with atheists; these are just people who claim to have no religion) have been swelling so fast that one writer, whose name escapes me, declared the nonreligious as 'the fastest-growing religion in America'.
The gentle-jesus-meek-and-mild moderates tend not to care, but for those to whom this stuff is the nectar of life, that is very scary. More and more, people are realizing that the dogmatically religious, who have more or less controlled society since time immemorial, are assailable. The religious establishment is realizing how tenuous their grip is and they are fighting back in the mad, backed-into-a-corner flailing you see here. Hardline religion is Tony Montana, standing on the balcony screaming "I'm the king! you can't kill me! I'm the best!" even as bullets tear him apart. They don't really have any other recourse. There's no real solid evidence they can provide that a) their god claims are legit, or b) that there is, in fact, anything wrong with homosexuals. So they just start swinging for the fences, because they don't seem to have much hope in winning the long game; the zeitgeist is leaving them behind and damned if they won't cause a ruckus while they still have a chance to be relevant. In my opinion, the best recourse to stuff like that is bemused silence. They need to understand that statements like that simply have no place in this world. He should garner the same attention he would if he were declaring ******* to be a menace because they put hexes on people, or demanding that people suspect old ladies who live alone with a lot of cats to be practitioners of witchcraft. It's just mad babbling from a bygone era, and deserves only crickets and nervous, distant coughs as answer. |
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2012-05-23, 10:17 AM | [Ignore Me] #4 | ||
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Couldn't care less. There are millions of idiots who talk about shit like this, putting it in the news just perpetuates the cycle of hate.
"Oh look, some old racist KKK homophobic pastor in some town no ones ever heard of is talking about putting all the gays in concentration camps. Let's take that guy seriously and blame all religious belief for this type of behaviour." Disclaimer: Not directed at anyone here.
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2012-05-23, 12:49 PM | [Ignore Me] #5 | |||
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2012-05-23, 02:21 PM | [Ignore Me] #6 | ||||
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2012-05-23, 02:36 PM | [Ignore Me] #7 | |||
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... Hey wait a second. Who put this man-shaped pile of straw in my seat? Rude. *kick* What I'm saying is that people like him have an audience because the 'harmless' religious moderates give him a stage and an unassailable legitimacy. You can call him crazy all day long, but it doesn't change the fact that he is being biblically accurate, and for as long as the bible is given any kind of authority in our society, we will have guys like him to look forward to. Now the problem, from a practical standpoint, aren't guys like him. Oh, no. It's the people sitting in the pews, listening to him, and quietly nodding their heads. And then those people go out and vote. And the constitution gets amended to criminalize homosexuals. And where do religious moderates come in? Well, if you try to attack that guy's credibility; I mean, really attack it, at the root, you have to go at the credibility of the bible, because that's where he's getting it from. And then you're in a world of hurt, because all those smiling, gentle moderates will suddenly stop being quite as supportive of you as you might have originally thought. |
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2012-05-23, 01:48 PM | [Ignore Me] #8 | |||
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It being on the news is the best thing to happen in this case, let the light of society shine on this cockroach and see him scuttle off in shame. |
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2012-05-23, 02:29 PM | [Ignore Me] #9 | |||
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Why do people keep seeing this as a clever thing to say? Its a moronic catch all argument designed to censor anything the poster does not like. Don't like people having conversations about stuff you have no interest in? Go catch a flight to Somalia and bring a hoe. |
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2012-05-23, 03:34 PM | [Ignore Me] #10 | |||
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You're just a troll. |
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2012-05-24, 01:45 AM | [Ignore Me] #13 | ||
I think Christianity is as dumb as the next guy, but some pastor advocating mass murder is a little much even for southern baptists. He's just some weirdo who is probably totally gay and really tortured by his inability to reconcile his indoctrination with his human nature.
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