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Old 2012-04-18, 12:20 PM   [Ignore Me] #1
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Re: Santorum Drops Out


Originally Posted by elfailo View Post
I like how the wikipedia article mentions this:
Indeed it does. Hence why simply looking at the total production is not a really good indication of wealth. If you look further, it also states in a related article:

Standard of living and GDP

GDP per capita is not a measurement of the standard of living in an economy. However, it is often used as such an indicator, on the rationale that all citizens would benefit from their country's increased economic production. Similarly, GDP per capita is not a measure of personal income. GDP may increase while real incomes for the majority decline. The major advantage of GDP per capita as an indicator of standard of living is that it is measured frequently, widely, and consistently. It is measured frequently in that most countries provide information on GDP on a quarterly basis, allowing trends to be seen quickly. It is measured widely in that some measure of GDP is available for almost every country in the world, allowing inter-country comparisons. It is measured consistently in that the technical definition of GDP is relatively consistent among countries.

The major disadvantage is that it is not a measure of standard of living. GDP is intended to be a measure of total national economic activity—a separate concept.

The argument for using GDP as a standard-of-living proxy is not that it is a good indicator of the absolute level of standard of living, but that living standards tend to move with per-capita GDP, so that changes in living standards are readily detected through changes in GDP.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_domestic_product

It's a tricky thing to use in general, simply saying "richest country in the world" doesn't really tell the whole story.

I mean, if we look at this chart:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...es_by_GDP_(PPP)

What does that say about the Chinese if you DON'T look at it on a per capita basis? (If not taking into account the EU as a whole, where the US goes from #1 nominal to 15 per capita, China goes from #2 nominal to #92 per capita! HUGE difference!). Without a doubt the US is the biggest consumer economy in the world, but to say that means it is the wealthiest or best overall is cutting corners everywhere.
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Old 2012-04-18, 11:54 AM   [Ignore Me] #2
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Sterling malorn, sterling. $99.2 billion in dollars.

I'm not saying the UK education system is perfect (too much political meddling) or that the US system is worse. But that access to higher education is easier for people from poor backgrounds.
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Click here to go to the next VIP post in this thread.   Old 2012-04-18, 01:00 PM   [Ignore Me] #3
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Meh.
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Old 2012-04-18, 01:04 PM   [Ignore Me] #4
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Also depends of course what the money is invested in and how.


Could be that you spend more money for instance on university research projects (to name just one thing that costs a lot of money) or have more costly staff (more competition between universities for best staff?). What does a professor earn on average in the US?
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Old 2012-04-18, 01:22 PM   [Ignore Me] #5
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Oh right, I forgot there's a country in the EU that didn't adopt the EU's currency. I'm an American, I don't easily recognize foreign currency because I never need to use it.

It doesn't change much. 7880 per student - US still spends over 50% more on education per-student.
8478 per student and its 40.6% more. It would be great to spend more on education but the current government is penny pinching due to the moron bankers.

There's plenty of financial aid options in the US for people from poor backgrounds. They're grants, scholarships, and loans with really good rates. Hell they have an easier time than middle-class people (because they don't qualify for most of those).

In the US the best way you can get an education is to be a poor minority - everything is paid for you. White middle class is the one that usually has to take out the loans.
But there is no standard method of everyone getting an equal opportunity to get further education. They have to rely on their parents, beg for scholarships/loans or self fund their education by getting a job and that impacts academic score because your working and not studying.
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Click here to go to the next VIP post in this thread.   Old 2012-04-18, 01:40 PM   [Ignore Me] #6
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Meh.
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Old 2012-04-18, 01:15 PM   [Ignore Me] #7
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Malorn I find this quite unsettling, are we agreeing on something here? :x
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Meh.
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Old 2012-04-18, 02:08 PM   [Ignore Me] #9
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Originally Posted by Malorn View Post
Even a broken clock is right twice a day!
Unless it just falls behind and isn't lapped twice a day!
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Meh.
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Meh.
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Old 2012-04-19, 12:58 AM   [Ignore Me] #12
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Edwards is a scumbag, no doubt about it. Santorum, while waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too bible thumpy for my tastes, is all in all a decent enough fellow.


Final decision: Both are lawyers, and so they both suck. But edwards is undoubtedly worse.

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Old 2012-04-19, 03:04 PM   [Ignore Me] #15
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Originally Posted by Malorn View Post
You're going to have to provide references for your slander if you expect to convince anyone.
http://youtu.be/G2vDgDceqNY
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