Please Sign this PS1 Free-to-Play Petition!

MasterChief096 · 2012-12-21, 08:57 PM

Just created it. Please, if you care about the original at all, sign this. So many of us are waiting to have PS1 battles again.

http://www.change.org/petitions/sony...nthly-charge-2

J Baley · 2012-12-21, 09:03 PM

This probably isn't the best way to go about this. I am not entering in all my personal info to vote. Sorry. But I do want PS1 to go Free to Play. I miss it.

basti · 2012-12-21, 09:17 PM

"The $15 monthly charge is currently barring many of us from doing that. We feel the charge is not justified for an almost ten year old game."

And this is exactly the reason why it should be shut down, once and for all.

There is no money to be made with PS1 in its current state. The game would need a lot of work to fix the engine up to work well with newer systems, and also deal with the cheater problem we had for years.

There is no quick way to do that. It would require a lot of work. More work means more cash needed, means you need more players. But the players dont want to pay it seems, heck they dont want to pay 15 bucks a month.

On top of that: Did any of you guys ever think about HOW to make PS1 F2P? How to monetize it? What to sell?

Planetside is dead. It died the day we abadoned it. To ressurect it, online petitions wont help. You have to vote with your wallet, resubscribe to it, and play it. Thats the only way to tell Smed that PS1 is still alive, and needs some attention.
I wont be there tho. PS1 is superior to Planetside 2 in its Metagame, but that will change in the future.

MasterChief096 · 2012-12-21, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by basti

"The $15 monthly charge is currently barring many of us from doing that. We feel the charge is not justified for an almost ten year old game."

And this is exactly the reason why it should be shut down, once and for all.

There is no money to be made with PS1 in its current state. The game would need a lot of work to fix the engine up to work well with newer systems, and also deal with the cheater problem we had for years.

There is no quick way to do that. It would require a lot of work. More work means more cash needed, means you need more players. But the players dont want to pay it seems, heck they dont want to pay 15 bucks a month.

On top of that: Did any of you guys ever think about HOW to make PS1 F2P? How to monetize it? What to sell?

Planetside is dead. It died the day we abadoned it. To ressurect it, online petitions wont help. You have to vote with your wallet, resubscribe to it, and play it. Thats the only way to tell Smed that PS1 is still alive, and needs some attention.
I wont be there tho. PS1 is superior to Planetside 2 in its Metagame, but that will change in the future.

We don't want them to update the game. Its fine as is. A gem, actually.

And the petition offers a way to monetize it if SOE is that greedy (even though they already stated that Gemini costs almost nothing to run): put back reserves, up the BR that it allows, and charge $5 a month for the game. Require a credit card even for reserves to deter hackers. Simple, no-brain solution.

basti · 2012-12-22, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by MasterChief096

We don't want them to update the game. Its fine as is. A gem, actually.

ITs fine as it is?

Get PLAY the game and tell me that again.

Newer PCs have massive problems with PS1. Some cant run it at all, others only get 20 FPS max. If that doesnt get fixed, you wont get big fights. In fact you wont get anyone playing.

Originally Posted by MasterChief096

And the petition offers a way to monetize it if SOE is that greedy (even though they already stated that Gemini costs almost nothing to run): put back reserves, up the BR that it allows, and charge $5 a month for the game. Require a credit card even for reserves to deter hackers. Simple, no-brain solution.

A crapload of people dont have a Credit card, means you put them out of the equation completly. Plenty of others dont want to put in their details just to play for free, and SOE surley doesnt want to go down that road.
But most important, it archives nothing. You get rid of the super balant hackers that way, but the usual ROF COF crowd that was there for years will once again still be around, as they were even around when we had no reserves and no trials.
What saddens me is that we had this exact discussion about Credit cards not just once, but literally dozens of times on Forumside. Every time we came to the same conclusion that it doesnt do any good, but just makes it harder to legit players to get into the game. Yet its coming up every now and then again.

So, in the end, you would revive a broken game, just to see it completly teared apart by hackers. SOE would just get a bad rep, and we all just lost, as we still dont have the game we want.

So, instead of wasting time with an old, broken game, let it rest. It is over, Planetside 1 is gone. It will not come back.

Chill, play something else, and help push Planetside 2 into the right direction.
Planetside gave us all a lot of good memories, thats why we are here. But those memorys cant be recreated. The game is gone, and there is nothing anyone can do about it.

MasterChief096 · 2012-12-22, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by basti

ITs fine as it is?

Get PLAY the game and tell me that again.

Edited my rude and hateful post toward you Basti, because its useless to fight hate with hate.

Long point made short Basti: Go play PS2 and leave us be to petition for a game we think is better. Voice your opinion by NOT signing the petition, and go to the PS2 forums to "push it in the right direction" as you say. Its beyond that for me and for my outfit.

Badjuju · 2013-01-29, 01:30 AM

Originally Posted by basti

ITs fine as it is?

Get PLAY the game and tell me that again.

Newer PCs have massive problems with PS1. Some cant run it at all, others only get 20 FPS max. If that doesnt get fixed, you wont get big fights. In fact you wont get anyone playing.

A crapload of people dont have a Credit card, means you put them out of the equation completly. Plenty of others dont want to put in their details just to play for free, and SOE surley doesnt want to go down that road.
But most important, it archives nothing. You get rid of the super balant hackers that way, but the usual ROF COF crowd that was there for years will once again still be around, as they were even around when we had no reserves and no trials.
What saddens me is that we had this exact discussion about Credit cards not just once, but literally dozens of times on Forumside. Every time we came to the same conclusion that it doesnt do any good, but just makes it harder to legit players to get into the game. Yet its coming up every now and then again.

So, in the end, you would revive a broken game, just to see it completly teared apart by hackers. SOE would just get a bad rep, and we all just lost, as we still dont have the game we want.

So, instead of wasting time with an old, broken game, let it rest. It is over, Planetside 1 is gone. It will not come back.

Chill, play something else, and help push Planetside 2 into the right direction.
Planetside gave us all a lot of good memories, thats why we are here. But those memorys cant be recreated. The game is gone, and there is nothing anyone can do about it.

I had no issues playing PS1 the entire year leading up to PS2 being launched. Unfortunately that entire year I was having more fun, after years and years of PS1, than I have been with PS2 in its current state.

ubermenchen · 2013-01-15, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by basti

"The $15 monthly charge is currently barring many of us from doing that. We feel the charge is not justified for an almost ten year old game."

And this is exactly the reason why it should be shut down, once and for all.

There is no money to be made with PS1 in its current state. The game would need a lot of work to fix the engine up to work well with newer systems, and also deal with the cheater problem we had for years.

There is no quick way to do that. It would require a lot of work. More work means more cash needed, means you need more players. But the players dont want to pay it seems, heck they dont want to pay 15 bucks a month.

On top of that: Did any of you guys ever think about HOW to make PS1 F2P? How to monetize it? What to sell?

Planetside is dead. It died the day we abadoned it. To ressurect it, online petitions wont help. You have to vote with your wallet, resubscribe to it, and play it. Thats the only way to tell Smed that PS1 is still alive, and needs some attention.
I wont be there tho. PS1 is superior to Planetside 2 in its Metagame, but that will change in the future.

On the other hand if ppl are playing ps1 they are playing a SONY game and not someone elses. Options for sony as a business to keep customers in the house.

ubermenchen · 2013-01-15, 11:01 AM

signed

MasterChief096 · 2012-12-21, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by J Baley

This probably isn't the best way to go about this. I am not entering in all my personal info to vote. Sorry. But I do want PS1 to go Free to Play. I miss it.

You don't have to. Just put in fake info if it bothers you that much. I created the petition and my full info and link to facebook account is listed. Can't really convince if you that doesn't.

CrazEpharmacist · 2012-12-22, 05:01 AM

That was very well written. I signed.

Hopefully Smedly will see this. You should make a post on the official PS2 forums. You'll get more signatures.

p0intman · 2012-12-22, 06:35 AM

literally signed.

MuNrOe · 2012-12-22, 07:24 AM

Signed

Crator · 2012-12-22, 07:27 AM

/signed

Crator · 2012-12-22, 11:58 AM

We do have proof that barrier to entry (currently CC) cuts back on exploiters. We're talking about blatant exploiting, predominantly wall and speed hacks that affected everyone playing. This was apparent when PS1 had the reserves program then shut it down due to blatant exploiting.

But I also agree that it does limit the player base. Not certain what else could be done other then active mods watching and responding as they do in PS2 currently.