Fact: I play BF3, but would rather play PS1

[Malorn]

We've been through this before; the only gameplay value the animations had was the delay before the vehicle was usable / delay before character exited vehicle. That value can persist through delays which might seem a little awkward, but BFBC2 and BF3 didn't have vehicle enter/exit animations and nobody really cared. Makes sense that they would de-prioritize those animations. They're polish.

[JHendy]

Originally Posted by Malorn

BFBC2 and BF3 didn't have vehicle enter/exit animations and nobody really cared.

That's not to say that they wouldn't have been elated had the feature been implemented.

Yes, it is polish, but it's definitely something that SOE should try to put into the game prior to launch. First impressions and all.

If you value immersion, enter/exit animations are of paramount importance.

[Stardouser]

Originally Posted by JHendy

That's not to say that they wouldn't have been elated had the feature been implemented.

Yes, it is polish, but it's definitely something that SOE should try to put into the game prior to launch. First impressions and all.

If you value immersion, enter/exit animations are of paramount importance.

Most BF players are not looking for that IN MY OPINION. It's realism, or as you call it, immersion. And I at least, don't value it. Because it's a hindrance to smooth gameplay, I'm not watching a movie here. It's the same thing when people in BF3 don't like explosions that jar you around, suppression blur, blurring from running, etc. Gameplay>immersion. I prefer to be immersed in the fighting, not the ambience of the environment or the realism of having to open a door to enter a vehicle.

[JHendy]

Originally Posted by Stardouser

Most BF players are not looking for that IN MY OPINION. It's realism, or as you call it, immersion. And I at least, don't value it. Because it's a hindrance to smooth gameplay, I'm not watching a movie here. It's the same thing when people in BF3 don't like explosions that jar you around, suppression blur, blurring from running, etc. Gameplay>immersion. I prefer to be immersed in the fighting, not the ambience of the environment or the realism of having to open a door to enter a vehicle.

It's not a hindrance. Most people agree that the game needs to have a startup delay upon entering a vehicle, anyway. EDIT: (Sorry, not startup delay. ENTRY delay. To stop people from warping inside instantaneously) This is a MUCH better alternative to a black screen, and one that people who appreciate immersion will cherish, as they did in PS1.

Nice little features like these that bring people closer to the gameworld in a persistent game are just gravy. And just to clarify: No, I'm not disputing the fact that it IS a polish feature. But the little things really do add up. They clearly meant a lot to the PS1 player base.

[Stardouser]

Originally Posted by JHendy

It's not a hindrance. Most people agree that the game needs to have a startup delay upon entering a vehicle, anyway. This is a MUCH better alternative to a black screen, and one that people who appreciate immersion will cherish, as they did in PS1.

Nice little features like these that bring people closer to the gameworld in a persistent game are gravy.

Source on most players? And why should there be a black screen, either? If the entry is instantaneous enough, there's no need for that.

It's all about fighting the war, not sightseeing(which is what immersion boils down to).

And make no mistake, you yourself might be talking about immersion, but a lot of people who support animations support it for the simple reason that they don't want people insta-escaping their gunfire by instantly entering vehicles. That's definitely a gameplay concern, not immersion.

[JHendy]

Originally Posted by Stardouser

Source on most players? And why should there be a black screen, either? If the entry is instantaneous enough, there's no need for that.

If you have a better alternative to animations as a means of stopping players from warping out of gunfire then I'd like to hear it.

Originally Posted by Stardouser

It's all about fighting the war

Precisely. And anything that gives players a palpable interaction with the game world in which that war is being fought is a worthwhile, valuable feature. It's all about being immersed in a war.

Originally Posted by Stardouser

And make no mistake, you yourself might be talking about immersion, but a lot of people who support animations support it for the simple reason that they don't want people insta-escaping their gunfire by instantly entering vehicles. That's definitely a gameplay concern, not immersion.

I don't see your point. It's beneficial to gameplay, it's beneficial to immersion. Good times.

[Crator]

Originally Posted by Stardouser

Most BF players are not looking for that IN MY OPINION. It's realism, or as you call it, immersion. And I at least, don't value it. Because it's a hindrance to smooth gameplay, I'm not watching a movie here. It's the same thing when people in BF3 don't like explosions that jar you around, suppression blur, blurring from running, etc. Gameplay>immersion. I prefer to be immersed in the fighting, not the ambience of the environment or the realism of having to open a door to enter a vehicle.

I disagree. Both are important. Gunplay is more important but I'd pick a game that has more immersion quality over another.