Well this has knocked my excitement back for PS2 quite abit... - Page 3

Xaine · 2012-01-11, 10:49 PM

I used to love Everquest 2, i have all these nostalgic memories of it as my first proper MMO.

After seeing that, a small part in me died. That is the most heartbreaking thing seeing a game like Everquest 2, which was amazing, having stupid shit like that put into it. If game devs ever wonder why their games die, then look no further.

Even if the video is a joke, which i hope to god it is, the wings are just the dumbest idea ever. Just so obviously following WoW/Aions lead, about 3 years too late and with something that just looks terrible.

I'm sorry if you read this Higby, i'm a massive fan of your work for Planetside 2, but SoE seem to take every game they make and crush the fucking life out of it with both hands with the worst design decisions imaginable. Happened with SWG, with EQ2 and to a lesser extent, Planetside with Core Combat.

I'm certainly no developer, and there must be reasons why these decisions are made, but i'd love to see the rational behind some of these choices and/or sit in on the design meetings.

God save Planetside 2. Keep these people away from it Matt, please.

Lonehunter · 2012-01-11, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by Higby

next I'm going to find out you don't want unicorn mounts or enchanted cudgels which have the power to smite the undead??

ZOMBIES Confirmed in PS2 yay!

Zenben · 2012-01-11, 11:11 PM

I had to think for a second and make sure it wasn't April 1st when I heard Ride of the Valkyries. That looks so stupid... Aion anyone?

cellinaire · 2012-01-12, 01:07 AM

Originally Posted by EVILoHOMER

I don't understand why content made for SOE MMOs always sucks after launch. It's like the development team gets cut down to like 10 people and everything just sucks in quality compared to what was made pre launch.

....?

Obviously, you are one of these NGE/BFR refugees aren't you?

EVILoHOMER · 2012-01-12, 04:19 AM

Originally Posted by cellinaire

....?

Obviously, you are one of these NGE/BFR refugees aren't you?

These are all the MMOs I've ever liked;

EQ
EQ2
PS
SWG
EVE Online
WoW

As you can see Four of the Six are from SOE and every time they say they've learnt from their mistakes, they fuck it all up again. I'm not just biased towards my SOE hate because I hate Blizzard nearly as much for ruining WoW. The only MMO that has been managed well is EVE Online, after all these years they've stayed true to what we like about that game. Yes CCP have been focusing too much on that walking in Stations stuff, however it was a move that needed to be taken for the future.

I just know I'm going to love Planetside 2 and then six months down the line someone is going to think it is a good idea to add these wings to the item store to replace your jetpacks.

Tikuto · 2012-01-12, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by SniperSteve

Does SOE know their logo is at the end of it?

rofl

Ailos · 2012-01-12, 10:03 AM

I DARE them to incorporate something like that into PS2. As long as they make those guys proper AA targets (susceptible to sparrow/quasar/flak).

(EDIT: no, really, I dare them to even try that during beta)

Oryon22 · 2012-01-12, 10:07 AM

That's all kinds of turrible

ARosaria · 2012-01-12, 03:07 PM

No!

psimonk · 2012-01-12, 03:26 PM

I know it's easy to just make fun of this or brush it off, but it really does concern me. It's amazing how I have loved the concept and/or beginning of nearly every game SOE has made but they consistently and steadily milk loyal players for money and make baffling gameplay/style choices to the point where I swear them off for life once again. Be careful when you say "oh it couldn't happen to MY game" because while I love Higby and the PS2 devs interaction thus far, the same people are ultimately at the helm and approving these decisions.

The main reason I hold out hope for PS2 is because they are developing it with a freemium model from the very beginning, so we hopefully won't end up with another EQ2 that tripple dips (sub, cash shop, and expansions) from it's own fanbase and following every lead WoW gives it to stock the cash shop with overpriced items that ruin the flow and style of the game.

Biscuit · 2012-01-12, 03:41 PM

Ya........ im going back to the office to do overtime.
Screw this.

Tikuto · 2012-01-12, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by IDukeNukeml

SOE has one more chance from me, if they don't listen or break shit we beg them not to, then I'll leave without a word said.. i won't even troll...... I'll just go...

I'll do same tbh. There's other great MMOs coming. If shit happens I'm gonna fall safe on World of Darkness, which gonna be so awesome I believe.

Tasorin · 2012-01-12, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by Hamma

I think you guys can calm down.. different games.. differnt focus.

Same company.

Speaks directly to the previous debacles with PS, SWG, and EQ2.

This is the kind of crap that gets green lighted or pushed downward by the suits over at SOE. They don't have a very good track record over the last 12 years and SOE has proved time and time again they can pull defeat right out of the jaws of victory.

Planetside 2 is a great chance for SOE to reverse its fortunes and regain some of its swagger and remove the tarnish from there past transgressions.

sylphaen · 2012-01-12, 05:04 PM

I think Higby and T-Ray have some of their own pride tied to the game.

We're safe from angel wings until they downsize the dev team.

Figment · 2012-01-12, 05:42 PM

Then again Brewko is on the team and he might think of sci-fi wings as a jetpack upgrade.