Buying a new PC [NL] - Page 6

MasterCalaelen · 2012-08-28, 04:52 PM

Quick question about the thermal paste for the CPU Cooler, it doesn't state it's included anywhere but the image shows it alongside all the other accessoires so I'll assume it's included, but is the thermal paste that comes with it any good?

Goku · 2012-08-28, 05:35 PM

This stuff is what I would get off that site http://www.4launch.nl/shop/#p-4-productid-020802

What they give your with the EVO probably isn't bad, but you only have enough for one use. With that I would recommend getting your own stuff anyway.

MasterCalaelen · 2012-09-09, 02:54 PM

So I picked up all my parts last Friday, put it together over the weekend and was looking forward to putting it to the test in some games today.

Went with PS2 as it was the quickest to finish dowloading, jumped in-game, everything maxed out and ready to go, or so I thought.

Launched the game and ran around for a bit when I went to my other computer for a sec, when I came back the screen was black and it didn't have any input anymore. Didn't know what was up so I relaunched PS2 about 5-10 minutes later, played for about 5 minutes when the GPU locks up, screen goes black and that's it.

Opened up the MSI Afterburner to see what the temps where, and they seem pretty high. It's running at 72-73C at the PS2 main menu, going up to 80-83C when I'm actually in-game (by myself without anyone around or anything happening) instantly. Fans are running @ 100% as well when I'm in-game and reaching those temperatures.

Setting the fans to manual doesn't seem to even be doing anything as I notice zero difference in spin speed or sound when I have them at 10% or 100%.

I'm using a MSI GeForce GTX660Ti with the latest drivers and no overclocking or anything.

Anyone have any suggestions as this is a pretty dissapointing start

Goku · 2012-09-09, 03:09 PM

Sounds like a bad gpu. What are the idle temps when your are just in windows?

MasterCalaelen · 2012-09-09, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by Goku

Sounds like a bad gpu. What are the idle temps when your are just in windows?

Alright, pretty embarassing to admit, but I was looking at the wrong graphic. The numbers I mentioned was the capacity percentage, not the GPU temperature.

GPU temperature is sitting around 45C when playing, which is fine.

While it's good news that the GPU isn't overheating, the bad news is that I have no clue what caused those two crashes.

As I said, screen goes black, monitor says no more input and that's it. Turning off the computer takes a couple of seconds of holding down the power button. Could it be that the CPU is overheating? Any suggestions on where to look?

Goku · 2012-09-09, 04:35 PM

Do you have the extra motherboard connector installed from the PSU? The 4 or 8 pin depending on the board.

Download core temp to see the temperature of your CPU. Post what they are.

MasterCalaelen · 2012-09-09, 04:54 PM

The extra connector is installed.

CPU temps are between 40 and 50C during gameplay, Core #2 seems to be hotter than the other 3 having a low-high of 39C-67C where the others are all low 30C-low 50C.

Goku · 2012-09-09, 05:39 PM

Doesnt sound like over heating to me. Try doing a pass through uniengine heaven benchmark and see if it crashes.

MasterCalaelen · 2012-09-09, 06:28 PM

Results, ran it twice, first time on standard settings second time on max settings:

First round:

FPS:
76.6
Scores:
1930
Min FPS:
32.4
Max FPS:
172.2

Hardware
Binary:
Windows 32bit Visual C++ 1600 Release Mar 7 2012
Operating system:
Windows 7 (build 7601, Service Pack 1) 64bit
CPU model:
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz
CPU flags:
3409MHz MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSSE3 SSE41 SSE42 HTT
GPU model:
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti 9.18.13.602 2048Mb

Settings
Render:
direct3d11
Mode:
1920x1080 4xAA fullscreen
Shaders:
high
Textures:
high
Filter:
trilinear
Anisotropy:
4x
Occlusion:
enabled
Refraction:
enabled
Volumetric:
enabled
Tessellation: disabled

Second round:

FPS:
37.4
Scores:
942
Min FPS:
10.3
Max FPS:
99.5

Hardware
Binary:
Windows 32bit Visual C++ 1600 Release Mar 7 2012
Operating system:
Windows 7 (build 7601, Service Pack 1) 64bit
CPU model:
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz
CPU flags:
3410MHz MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSSE3 SSE41 SSE42 HTT
GPU model:
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti 9.18.13.602 2048Mb

Settings
Render:
direct3d11
Mode:
1920x1080 8xAA fullscreen
Shaders:
high
Textures:
high
Filter:
trilinear
Anisotropy:
16x
Occlusion:
enabled
Refraction:
enabled
Volumetric:
enabled
Tessellation:
extreme

No issues in either round with crashing or the likes.

Goku · 2012-09-09, 07:53 PM

Interesting. Any other games exhibiting what PS2 is doing?

MasterCalaelen · 2012-09-10, 03:43 AM

Originally Posted by Goku

Interesting. Any other games exhibiting what PS2 is doing?

Haven't been able to try out any other games as none had finished downloading yet. TF2 is done now so I can give that a go.

Why did you say it was interesting?

*edit* Just played TF2 for almost an hour without any issues. It's not a very heavy game though, especially in comparison to PS2. I'm waiting for the SW:TOR trial to download so I can give that a go as that's a much heavier game.

*edit2* Just gave SW:TOR a go, ~10 minutes in, same thing. Screen goes black saying no more input, little buzzing sound and that's it. Computer keeps running but no more input to the monitor.

Goku · 2012-09-10, 07:56 AM

If it was only PS2 causing it is why, but it doesn't seem that way due to SWTOR crashing. Try more games to see if it continues.

Download OCCT. Select the CPU: Linpack tab and see that can run stable for a hour. This doesn't stress the GPU, only CPU and RAM. I'm thinking this sounds like a possible ram issue. Verify all the correct settings for the ram (timings and voltage) are setup correctly in the bios. Should be under the overclocking part.

MasterCalaelen · 2012-09-10, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by Goku

If it was only PS2 causing it is why, but it doesn't seem that way due to SWTOR crashing. Try more games to see if it continues.

Download OCCT. Select the CPU: Linpack tab and see that can run stable for a hour. This doesn't stress the GPU, only CPU and RAM. I'm thinking this sounds like a possible ram issue. Verify all the correct settings for the ram (timings and voltage) are setup correctly in the bios. Should be under the overclocking part.

Have a post up on the PS2 Forums and they suggested OCCT as well, just ran it for 15 minutes and no issues, with temps between 60-70C.

I don't really own any other games short of very old ones like TF2, so I'm kinda out of luck on that.

How can I find out what the right timing and voltage for my RAM is? There wasn't any info like that in the box.

Goku · 2012-09-10, 08:15 AM

Should be a sticker on the ram saying what it is. By the looks of it though I think it should be 1600MHz, 9-9-9 (not sure of the last number here, but probably 24 or 27), and 1.5V. Thats if you got all four sticks of ram kit.

MasterCalaelen · 2012-09-10, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by Goku

Should be a sticker on the ram saying what it is. By the looks of it though I think it should be 1600MHz, 9-9-9 (not sure of the last number here, but probably 24 or 27), and 1.5V. Thats if you got all four sticks of ram kit.

Alright yeah, it's CL9-9-9-24 1.5V. I'll check that in the BIOS.

Just ran the OCCT GPU thing and when I stopped it at 10 minutes it happened again. I heard the windows sound just before I reset it though, so it seems it just kills the video input and reboots the system.

I also checked the RAM in the BIOS, it's at 1.5V, but I can't find the 9-9-9-24 thing anywhere?