Gameplay: Outfit Air Cruisers Redux - Page 14

Gugabalog · 2012-08-04, 04:29 PM

Yea, and it would function the same as a continent dedicated to naval warfare.

Baneblade · 2012-08-04, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by Gugabalog

Yea, and it would function the same as a continent dedicated to naval warfare.

Right, which is why I'm opposed to it. I don't want 'content arenas' or 'content zones'. I want everything on one battlefield... so to speak.

Gugabalog · 2012-08-04, 07:22 PM

As is they already have biomes that negatively affect certain war machines. I.E. canyons negatively affect armor while forests negatively affect air. Why should a small (biome sized) "space" continent be any different?

Baneblade · 2012-08-04, 11:02 PM

By definition it couldn't be small. Even OACs are going to make the current maps seem small, until SOE quadruples their effective sizes by opening up coastal areas and adding island geography.

Gugabalog · 2012-08-04, 11:42 PM

A 64^2 is more an island than a continent. Maybe a space biome for orbital platforms would have one platform for each continent?

I also think OAC works better with a taller flight ceiling.

Baneblade · 2012-08-05, 09:01 AM

OACs are supposed to be vulnerable to ground units, it helps keep them from just going where ever they please.

Gugabalog · 2012-08-05, 09:43 AM

I don't see a player owned anything that would otherwise be persistent being destructible, only capturable. It just seems like too big a flaw to be worth the time.

Baneblade · 2012-08-05, 12:10 PM

They have to be destructible, otherwise you have too many of them. I admit the flaw in that is how to handle the outfit being offline, but there could be a park mode that halves resource cost, but it still costs resources when parked.

Gugabalog · 2012-08-05, 12:22 PM

I think that maybe they could be like facilities only air borne and indestructable and instead of purchasable they are capturable, which was one of the big advantages of the LOP

Baneblade · 2012-08-05, 03:25 PM

There are already ideas like that. OAC isn't one of them.

Gugabalog · 2012-08-05, 03:58 PM

I'm suggesting making it like that as I don't see outfits buying something that has a sign painted "SHOOT ME NOW WITH EVERTHING!" and because of that they should be indestructible and instead capturable while somehow remaining mobile.

Graf · 2012-08-05, 04:44 PM

If they are attacked, they would most likely defend with everything, though I see both points. It would have to be tried in beta to see how outfits would react to it. Would they not buy it for fear of it being attacked, or would they buy it and defend it with everything? Why not make a poll or something to see which way the idea would go?

Gugabalog · 2012-08-05, 05:13 PM

I could see someone getting it if it could only be destroyed via boarding action and destruction of certain internal elements.

EDIT: Sorta like BF2142 but since silos aren't feasible...

Graf · 2012-08-05, 05:29 PM

What if you have to blow up access doors and stuff to get in in the first place. That would make the ship easier to defend and, consequently, more outfits would invest in them.

Baneblade · 2012-08-05, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by Gugabalog

I'm suggesting making it like that as I don't see outfits buying something that has a sign painted "SHOOT ME NOW WITH EVERTHING!" and because of that they should be indestructible and instead capturable while somehow remaining mobile.

That is part of the point of design. To keep them relatively rare, so making them destructible means only certain outfits will bother in the first place.