Originally Posted by elfailo
That's what belief is! Not being 100% certain yet still leaning towards one particular answer to the question.
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The subtle difference in my argument is that it doesn't require belief. It's a self standing tautology. A statement, not a conviction. That and the more obvious fact I'm not leaning toward an "answer" to the question. Simply a statement of the facts.
Originally Posted by elfailo
Like I said, that's because they're confusing knowledge and belief. Fact of the matter is that they can't be certain. You know this, I know this.
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You're confusing "faith" with "belief". Both of which have multiple definitions depending on the context. It's the same way a religious person can be both knowledgeable about something and cast reason aside for a faith based argument.
Originally Posted by elfailo
You're obviously very engaged.
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More of a morbid curiosity into how the extremes reason. I've always enjoyed debates with such varied stances on the topic.
Originally Posted by elfailo
You can still become real atheists, like me.
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Originally Posted by elfailo
Welcome to the club.
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You seem overly eager in wanting to belong to a group and pull others into it. It's a group which seems as unfounded as theism in its tenants.
Originally Posted by elfailo
By the way, there's no such thing as "truly believing".
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Ever talk to Fred Phelps? Dude truly believes without a doubt in his mind what he says. (It's been cross referenced multiple times when questioned if his cult is a joke by people that have known him).
That and you only have to go so far as people that kill themselves for religion. That level of belief isn't uncommon.
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