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Old 2011-04-05, 06:49 PM   [Ignore Me] #1
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Hey all im a massive planetside fan and have played the game pretty much since launch and the only reason that I dont play the game anymore is because I dont have a PC, anyway I came up with a cool idea for planetside a while ago with a friend that also plays the game ill try and make it short and sweet haha.

Anyway to mix up the fight a little i though about instead of just fighting on land why not take the battle to the sea and have some bases out at sea, not too far out but far enough for a cool ass sea battle, you would have to change a few bases around so hacking certain ones would give your empire resources to spawn battle boats that could man up to 6, and little speed boats that can get you around faster could be upto 2 man, I know some vehicles like the thunderer can go on the water already but are very slow alos the VS may have advantage on the water as they get magriders but i think the whole thing would work and give PS:Next an awsome new dynamic that not many games can say they have done, plus its not impossible to do this, I personally think it would be a brilliant idea for PS:Next I just wish I could take my idea to the game makers, i bet they havnt thought about this and im guessing old players and even new ones would think this is a pretty sweet idea, plus having sea bases could give your empire an advantage and maybe some little perks, not sure what but something cool, nothing that kills the balance between empires too much though, anyways thats pretty much my idea so far what do you all think?

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Old 2011-04-06, 12:24 AM   [Ignore Me] #2
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Welcome to the forums.

This is one of the most asked for features, pretty much since the game came out.
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Old 2011-04-06, 12:26 PM   [Ignore Me] #3
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Yeah I'm afraid to say its an idea almost as old as the game itself.

I hope they take it into account however when they make the new game, and include coastal warfare at least in the game, allowing us to fight over beach heads and use large ships as mobile bases and fire platforms.
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Old 2011-04-06, 12:34 PM   [Ignore Me] #4
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If we do get naval warfare, I want to be able to get my Kenny Powers jet ski.

You're fucking out. I'm fucking in.
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Old 2011-04-06, 12:50 PM   [Ignore Me] #5
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I always imagined what would have happened if instead of Core Combat we would have got a Naval Warfare, or Space Combat expansion.

I don't think the world was ready for that kind of awesomeness.
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Old 2011-04-06, 01:00 PM   [Ignore Me] #6
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The thing about naval combat is that it'd have to be in from the start. it depends so heavily on map design that it can't be an afterthought.
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Old 2011-04-06, 04:35 PM   [Ignore Me] #7
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Yeah I agree that it would have to be in the game right from launch, as doing it after would be a bit weird, Lets just hope they have took it into consideration but I guess we will find out in the beta! I can see the game being released at the end of this year now too, argh cant bloody wait!
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Old 2011-04-06, 10:05 PM   [Ignore Me] #8
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Want boats!

I always thought it would be fun to fight over oil platforms off the coast or, I guess NTU platforms in the Planetside universe. The empire who controls them could enjoy having the NTU in their bases refilled across the continent or whatever. Gives a reason to have a few boats and a differently laid out 'base' to fight in too.

Want boats!
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Old 2011-04-07, 05:37 AM   [Ignore Me] #9
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I just can't see a naval version of PS working tbh, there's alot of other types of land based combat I'd rather see first.
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Old 2011-04-07, 05:59 AM   [Ignore Me] #10
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I just can't see a naval version of PS working tbh, there's alot of other types of land based combat I'd rather see first.
I find myself about a third agreeing and two thirds disagreeing here. Land combat should be a priority, yes, but naval warfare with four or five guys crewing a destroyer, and 2/3 for a cruiser or corvette, single-man PT boats, (good lord, if we had) 3 man subs, stealthy Zodiac-style boat insertions... if we hit or surpassed the max pop limit, it would be large scale (a fleet of two battleships, three cruisers, two subs, and four PT boats could be twenty four guys, and that would be an awesome battle to watch!) and entirely viable while keeping the land battle exciting and large.
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Old 2011-04-07, 06:49 AM   [Ignore Me] #11
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The only issues I see with naval combat are.

The transitions from sea and land.
Aircraft having a huge advantage being able to go anywhere and amphibious craft being comparable (why grab a battleship when you can fly or get a mag/deli?).
Line of sight, so the ships would have to be somewhat big.

You get it all right, and you could have something like this..

I love the look of the barrage at :32
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Old 2011-04-07, 09:51 AM   [Ignore Me] #12
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Empires that have control of the bases at sea would have a advantage but i wouldnt say a massive advantage, lets say theres a base close to the beach and you need to control this base to spawn boats and battle ships to travel and take bases out at sea, when thinking of a battle ship i was thinking along the sides maybe twice as big as Vindicator with AA guns on and cannons for taking out other boats and troops, so not a massive battle ships, plus they would only have the advantage on water but would have to go back on land to save the base that links to the bases out at sea, hmm there is lots of ways of doing this type of game play in planetside but it would have to be well thought out.

Unless they just have certain planets that are basically water based and others that are land based with no boats...

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Old 2011-04-07, 10:38 AM   [Ignore Me] #13
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Im not sure how this would work with the cert system.

Would you need to cert naval certs to use them ? In which case it would really have to be worth many peoples efforts to use valuable cert 'space'.

If that happened you could end up with what we had in the caves ie a few that liked them and always down there and some who simply ignored them unless they were absolutely forced to go there if there was no fight anywhere else.

It's an odd scenario to specialise in , if there only a few continents with enough ocean and tactical advantages to be worth the investment , unless all these craft fell under normal tech certs alongside the vanguard /mag/ prowler.
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Old 2011-04-07, 12:47 PM   [Ignore Me] #14
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My only question is what happens to vanu vehicles that can just float on the water?
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Old 2011-04-07, 01:25 PM   [Ignore Me] #15
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Why not have the really big battleships be bases? The object is to board and hack it. CR5's can change the destination of the ships, and as long as it's defended, could supply spawn points for vehicles, aircraft, and other, smaller boats? Or have some battle base ships be aircraft carriers, and some be vehicle cargo ships, and others have a way of deploying other watercraft (I get the image of a protoss carrier in starcraft

To launch the land vehicles you would have to beach the boat and have a giant ramp come out of the bow to act as a bridge from the ship to land.
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